The Ideal Woman


This is a follow up to the post I put up about “Defining Bulky.

The discussion about the article was amazing. In a matter of 2 days it was linked to more sites than any other post I have ever made. It is going to be cited in a national magazine, and has brought out a massive support for the “bulky” crowd.  Feminist are angry, trainers are scratching their heads, and the discussion is running wild.

Let’s take a deeper look.

The Poll

A lot of people thought that the poll was biased. Let me explain why I chose the women I chose.

I did do a poll with bodybuilder women and it was an instant flop and thought to be too much. There is no need, in my opinion, to measure on that. I did a 2nd poll of with only 200 people surveyed and included Hilton, Alba, Biel, Jamie Eason, and a steroid bodybuilder female. Alba still came out on top and in that poll Hilton scored higher than Biel. I wondered if after seeing such an intense display of muscle if any at all being visible was an automatic distaste?

Accidental vs Diligent Training

Another important point is you can’t get a level of muscle beyond say, Biel or Swank (in general), without being a serious longtime bodybuilder or athlete. This is a good point I think does need to be made. You can achieve their look by “accident.” You can achieve this look with training for a short period of time, with the right kind of intensity in your training.

Extreme bodybuilders, you can only achieve with either drugs or years of  discipline and purpose for achievement in athletics or in bodybuilding.

The purpose of the poll was for the average female gym goer. The average female gym goer already thinks that bodybuilders are extreme. However, does she think that this is easy to achieve? What are the pros and cons that are found in different bodies? Those I thought were fantastic questions.

New Poll


By the way, these polls are professional paid for surveys taken blindly through a survey service. They aren’t cheap or altered in anyway. It is not likely I will be doing any more in the near future, as again there is a cost involved in it.

(Participants were of college education, between 21-45, and of moderate to higher income. It included both single and married women.)

Question 1: From the above picture, what term would you use to explain this woman’s body?

1-Slightly Muscular-0%



4-Extremely Bulky-73%

Question 2: Do you think it is easy to achieve this type of look with training in the gym?

1-Very Easy-13%


3-Not Easy-26%

4-Almost impossible-13%

Question 3: Do you think that it is a type of look you would like to carry?



3-Maybe, at a different time-7%

Question 4: If you could choose a celebrity body that you think is the ideal woman, who would you choose?

1-Angelina Jolie-19%

2-Jessica Alba-34%

3-Jessica Biel-16%

4-Paris Hilton-11%

5-Kate Winslet-20%

Question 5: What isn’t ideal about Angelina Jolie’s body?

1-Too skinny-32%

2-Too fat-4%

3-Too much muscle-24%

4-Not enough muscle-8%

5-Not enough fat-20%

6-Nothing, it is ideal-12%


Question 6: What isn’t ideal about Jessica Alba’s body?

1-Too skinny-16%

2-Too fat-11%

3-Too much muscle-15%

4-Not enough muscle-20%

5-Not enough fat-9%

6-Nothing, it is ideal-29%

Question 7: What isn’t ideal about Jessica Biel’s body?

1-Too skinny-12%

2-Too fat-17%

3-Too much muscle-41%

4-Not enough muscle-2%

5-Not enough fat-18%

6-Nothing, it is ideal-10%


Question 8: What isn’t ideal about Paris Hilton’s body?

1-Too skinny-37%

2-Too fat-0%

3-Too much muscle-10%

4-Not enough muscle-17%

5-Not enough fat-22%

6-Nothing, it is ideal-14%

Question 9: What isn’t ideal about Kate Winslet’s body?

1-Too skinny-3%

2-Too fat-39%

3-Too much muscle-10%

4-Not enough muscle-28%

5-Not enough fat-0%

6-Nothing, it is ideal-20%

Question 10: Of the celebrities bodies above who’s do you think is the hardest to achieve?

1-Angelina Jolie-14%

2-Jessica Alba-41%

3-Jessica Biel-12%

4-Paris Hilton-25%

5-Kate Winslet-8%

Isn’t that interesting? An overwhelming majority of women think that Jessica Alba’s body is harder to achieve. They think it is easy to achieve at least 25lbs of muscle on a female body. It is obvious they think it is harder to achieve “skinny” than it is “muscled.” Could we speculate that it is also thought to be easier to be ugly than pretty? I think this is the case, especially with my morning hair. That only took sleep, but I digress.

This  shows the distortion of what the reality is. It shows that the majority of the survey takers don’t have much of an idea of what it takes to train in the gym. Even if the body type you want is not one of muscle definition, you should still understand that it takes work to achieve it.

The final survey lead me to take a deeper look into psychology and preconceived notions. These are the pictures I used. Before you scroll down and see the results I want you to ask yourself what appeals to you more. Feel free to answer as well in the comments.

Which body would you like to have of the ones pictured below if you had to choose one listed?







1-Jessica Biel

2-Paris Hilton

3-Kate Winslet

4-Jessica Alba

5-Jessica Biel

If you add up 1 and 5 you get a total of 34% total for Jessica Biel.  So technically the winner eh? The 1st picture is after losing the degree of muscle she has in the 2nd picture, but by no means “skinny fat.”

I chose the pictures I did for particular reasons and to try and break through the stereotypes of what a lot of the general public may think of these particular women. Was it casual clothes that was the issue? Did the appearance of a dress make a difference? Tan or pale? Strong or soft?

I do have the answer to all those questions and more. The simple truth of it is?

You are never going to get the answer, so there is no need in trying.

Missing the point

The previous article was not about who is hotter, and what you have to do to achieve this. The point was to try and put more of a focus in what women are fearing to achieve when they lift the weights. The point was to take that step further and say, “Okay, you say you don’t want to be bulky. Can you give me an example of who you think is bulky, and why you don’t like that look?” Getting real and speaking to the truth of the situation was the point.

Finding the ideal woman?

The point was not to state that any one woman’s body is the right body.  You can do a thousand polls and put any females body or the same person (as we saw) in the pictures, and there will always be a difference. That being said, I don’t believe in settling, sugar coating, or pandering to defensiveness and insecurity.

This is the day and age of being able to do amazing things, overcome severe restrictions, and be the best that you can be on your terms. My view is as long as you are not hurting yourself or imposing problems for others due to your choices, I don’t care what you want to do. If what you want to do happens to involve body composition, then it happens to be something that I can help you with, and will be discussing in the future.

As for me, who do I think is an fantastic example of the ideal woman? See below.

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